Hi Peter,
Thanks for reaching out.
Indeed, I have ticket about backspace announcing wrong things if you backspace before expansion.
Especially in contracted Braille it is hard to get it right, but it can surely be improved. Multi-sign characters are the same, conceptually those are also a form of contracted Braille.
I'll address these and other issues, including specifics for Slovak Braille in future releases.
Best regards,
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On Friday, 01/09/26 at 12:53 Peter Vágner via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hello Harri,
I have took the latest beta for a spin right now and I am sure
slovak braille may not be fully up to date.
Here is what I am seeing and I wish to be improved for the future.
While typing I can type some of the diacritic characters and
punctuation symbols such as dots 16 for á (a with acute), dots 2346
for ž (z with caron), dots 236 for ( (left paren), dots 356 for )
(right paren) and more. However when using 4 finger swipe left as
backspace key a different symbols are spoken. For example when
deleting letter ž I am getting "exclaim" spoken. While deleting
letter á I am getting "asterisk" spoken.
In slovak we have just single grade.
Also the issue I have mentioned previously that I am unable to type
in numbers using numeric prefix 3456 this is working fine after all
but I see it a little bit missleading. As soon as I type in 3456 I
will get hash spoken. Then when continuing typing in I am getting a,
b, c, d and similar spoken but numbers are written into the buffer
correctly.
Now after reading the help I can understand the workflow with
numbers is somewhat expected as when pressing the space or the enter
key the input is processed for contractions.
However I don't yet understand why something else is being spoken
when using the backspace key. I can understand that 16 for asterisk,
2346 for exclaim, 236 for number 8 are used for some braille codes
but not for slovak, so I'd like to better understand this and come
up with a natural workflow.
As I have mentioned previously now we have introduced and
standardized a way to type much more symbols by using dot 5,46 and
dot 5,4 prefixes with the Braille Authority of Slovakia. For example
to type in the $ (dollar sign) we can do dot 5, followed by dot 4
followed by dots 234. To type in # (hash sign) we can press dot 5,
then dots 46, then dots 3456.
Would there be a way to get mbraille understand these new additional
braille codes for slovak please?
Since liblouis 3.22 these are implemented for liblouis and since
liblouis 3.36 there are some latest corrections and additions
available.
Also the Braille Authority of Slovakia have published papers
standardizing these slovak braille code features and if doable I'd
like to make MBraille capable of handling it all.
I am technical contact for the liblouis related work here in
slovakia, so if you think my input might be usefull toward improving
MBraille as well, I'm happy to remain available for the cooperation
and discussions.
Huge thanks for working on it.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 16. 12. 2025 o 20:57 Harri Pasanen
napísal(a):
Hi
Petr,
Thanks
for the positive feedback. Regarding braille tables, liblouis
is used for some, but not all languages. Might be that Slovak
is not yet using liblouis. I'll check and will make a try with
the Slovak tables.
Yes,
I used AI for the first cut of the translations, but it may well
need some curation. I will provide you the translation files to
look at.
On Tuesday, 16 December 2025 at
09:37, Peter Vágner
<pvdeejay@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
On my phone the app is working fine.
I haven't tested it with talkback yet but the self voicing
mode is working great.
It's important to know that for me it's easier to calibrate
the keyboard by placing each finger on the screen individually
rather than placing all 6 fingers at once.
Gesture system is similar to what I was used to with the
previous version.
Is this eventually also going to work as a system wide
keyboard on android in the future?
Can you kindly remind us how language translations of the app
are handled now? I suspect the AI is used for generating
translations. Will you accept translation work from volunteers
the way it used to work in the past?
Also what about braille tables? Is liblouis used internally or
are these custom tables?
With slovak braille table multi cell symbols don't appear to
work for me. For example when pressing dots 3456 the # symbol
is typed instead of switching into number mode. Dot 5 is also
used as a prefix, dots 45 and dots 56 too.
If liblouis is used internally the proper braille table for
slovak is sk-g1.ctb. If there are custom braille tables in use
similar how it used to work in the past, then I think I need
to contribute changes as the braille has been formalized in
slovakia since last stable version and there are some minor
changes.
Huge thanks for the updates
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 15. 12. 2025 o 22:05 Harri
Pasanen via MBraille-Test napísal(a):
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