Hi Harri & All,

For clarification, those who have purchased the legacy MBraille version will be grandfather clocked to the lifetime new version.

Best,
Eileen
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On Apr 10, 2026, at 1:28 PM, Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:


Hi,

Existing full version users don't need to convert to subscription, they will automatically get a free lifetime subscription.

Screen recording with VoiceOver enabled for the settings screen misbehaviour would be useful, thanks!

Best regards,
Harri

On Friday, April 10th, 2026 at 10:29 PM, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hi Harri!

Thanks for the great details here.

You wrote:
There is an underlying framework bug.  I already submitted one bug report upstream, but that was rejected because  I did not produce a minimal reproducible test case.  I will try to do that.
Please let me know if I can give you any exampled either by screen recording with VoiceOver enabled or by steps to reproduce. I can get this to fail quite consistently here.
If they are at GitHub please just tag me @tbdalgaard and I will be happy to help.

I'm transitioning to a subscription model: €2/month or €20/year (yearly saves €4) with 1 month free trial. Existing users who purchased the app are grandfathered with lifetime access.
I wish you have done that years ago. I would have ben glad to support you back then!
Is there any way that existing users can convert to the subscription model? And will this result in one month free trial, and after that will MBraille just ask you to make a subscription?
I wonder if you could let people use the braille keyboard and play with it without using commands or any other features, but just trying the functionality of the keyboard.


Best regards Thomas 

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Den 10. apr. 2026 kl. 20.27 skrev Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com>:

Hi,

There a lot to unpack here, so I'll answer each point inline below

On Friday, April 10th, 2026 at 12:20 AM, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hi again Harri!

Ok, I may have an odd man out phone here.
If I enable both clicks and vibration while typing I notice a bigger lag again. As soon as both of these were turned on, I noticed the lag and that my mistakes got worse even though I haven't changed anything. It felt like MBraille didn't catch my gestures and swipes. I know I typed quite fast, but it was not a problem until both of these settings were turned on again.

I wonder if I am trying to push MBraille too much here, but I really enjoy clicks and vibration feedback while typing. 

Ok, tried to turn off clicks and only use haptic/vibration feedback while typing:
No issue. This is strange.
Went back again and turned clicks on... Now strange things show up:
* No clicks while typing/ inserting newline.
* No sound for entering/exiting command mode.
Oops, what have I broken here?

Some kind of bug is manifesting here.  I'll add it to my list.


The debug setting is still not working for me as expected. VoiceOver will see it as a slider, but nothing changes when I swipe up/down or turn the setting off before trying to change it.

For me the slider works when using VoiceOver, with a caveat.  I need to swipe down or up 10 times before it changes on my iPad.  I will fix this.

And the settings screen failing on me becomes more and more of an issue while testing MBraille. When VoiceOver gets stuck I can get focus back if I restart VoiceOver, but it really adds up time while trying to focus on testing swipe sensitivity settings or adjusting other settings to test the different parts of MBraille.

There is an underlying framework bug.  I already submitted one bug report upstream, but that was rejected because  I did not produce a minimal reproducible test case.  I will try to do that.

I also notice something that I cannot reproduce consistently, but it feels like VoiceOver sometimes looses focus, when I for example try to go back to the main menu with four finger swipe or the scrub gesture. In some cases self voicing says: Main menu, and VoiceOver waits a little before focus perhaps is at braille editor, but in other cases it will announce: braille keyboard, as if the keyboard area still is in "fake focus"
Perhaps this gives you ideas to the settings screen as well, where focus gets lost and VoiceOver becomes unusable until I reload the screenreader entirely.

This may indeed be related to the settings screen bug.

Dropbox syncing:
I saved a document yesterday and each time I open MBraille ever since, it reminds me that this document needs to be synced to Dropbox, but I haven't done anything to that document since I saved it. Is this expected behaviour?

Not expected, but a known issue.  Already in my ToDo list.  I think Google Drive and OneDrive are also affected.

I know you are getting close to a official release therefor a few questions, that are not important as of now, but will be quite important before an update to App Store or Google Play gets out:
* How will alias.mb be merged from MBraille legacy? Mine got way too big, but I can fix it by copy-paste if nothing else can be done, but I know quite a few users who cannot do this without assistance.
* How will old MBraille settings be merged?
* Can you share some informations about how users can get in touch? Before you used a regular mailling list. Is this still a plan?
* If users used MBraille legacy with Dropbox, will their files be merged to the new MBraille directory, or will you provide some steps instead?
* Can you share some thoughts of the price for MBraille?


I'm transitioning to a subscription model: €2/month or €20/year (yearly saves €4) with 1 month free trial. Existing users who purchased the app are grandfathered with lifetime access.

So on iOS MBraille 26 will be just an upgrade for existing users, restore purchases will make it work.  I plan to migrate the old alias.mb, user dictionaries to new version automatically without user interaction.

There already is a new mailing list available, with currently 0 subscribers:
https://lists.mpaja.com/mailman3/lists/mbraille.lists.mpaja.com/

I will also do a proper website and contact form there.

Best regards,
Harri
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