# Version 0.9.1 Polishing and fixing only this time. * Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster. * Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver. * Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now. * Changed the keyboard click sound * Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers) * Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS * Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed. Best regards, Harri
Harri can New Mbraille be used with talkback without self voice? Some of my frends who use Android are asking. � Dr. Engin Yılmaz <http://www.drenginyilmaz.net/> www.drenginyilmaz.net WhatsApp Duyuru Grubu: <https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69> https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69 X Ve Instagram kullanıcı adı: yilmaeng Youtube Kanalı: <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA � From: Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:30 PM To: MBraille Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> Subject: [MBraille-Test] v0.9.1 fixing and polishing # Version 0.9.1 Polishing and fixing only this time. * Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster. * Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver. * Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now. * Changed the keyboard click sound * Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers) * Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS * Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed. Best regards, Harri
Hi Engin, For Android, MBraille is usable with Talkback, except when in braille input screen, when one must rely on self voicing. MBraille directs the user to turn the talkback off (hold volume up and down keys) when entering the keyboard. It also announces when an external app is launched, so that the user knows to turn the talkback back on. Unfortunately Android does not allow touch event to go through to the app unfiltered when the TalkBack is running. I raised a ticket about this roughly 13 years ago to Google, but they just closed it after some years. Best regards, Harri On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 11:37, engin_yilmaz@yahoo.com <engin_yilmaz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Harri can New Mbraille be used with talkback without self voice? Some of my frends who use Android are asking.
Dr. Engin Yılmaz
[www.drenginyilmaz.net](http://www.drenginyilmaz.net/)
WhatsApp Duyuru Grubu:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69
X Ve Instagram kullanıcı adı: yilmaeng
Youtube Kanalı:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA
From: Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:30 PM To: MBraille Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> Subject: [MBraille-Test] v0.9.1 fixing and polishing
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster.
* Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver.
* Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now.
* Changed the keyboard click sound
* Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers)
* Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS
* Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
Best regards,
Harri
Hello, I am using a different screen reader on android. But when checked in the MBraille settings it can speak through a screen reader. I believe it uses accessibility announcement events under the hood. Greetings Peter Dňa 30. 1. 2026 o 10:37 engin_yilmaz--- via MBraille-Test napísal(a):
Harri can New Mbraille be used with talkback without self voice? Some of my frends who use Android are asking.
Dr. Engin Yılmaz
www.drenginyilmaz.net <http://www.drenginyilmaz.net/>
WhatsApp Duyuru Grubu:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69 <https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69>
X Ve Instagram kullanıcı adı: yilmaeng
Youtube Kanalı:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA>
*From:*Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2026 12:30 PM *To:* MBraille Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> *Subject:* [MBraille-Test] v0.9.1 fixing and polishing
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster.
* Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver.
* Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now.
* Changed the keyboard click sound
* Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers)
* Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS
* Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
Best regards,
Harri
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Interesting... Does the keyboard input also work while the screen reader is running? Is it this Chinese screen reader that must be side-loaded, don't remember the name now? Note that in 0.9.1 there is no longer a choice in settings to speak using TalkBack, VoiceOver, etc. for mobile, but it will default to that if it detects that screen reader is running and locale matches phone locale. Best regards, Harri On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 16:01, Peter Vágner via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hello, I am using a different screen reader on android. But when checked in the MBraille settings it can speak through a screen reader. I believe it uses accessibility announcement events under the hood.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 30. 1. 2026 o 10:37 engin_yilmaz--- via MBraille-Test napísal(a):
Harri can New Mbraille be used with talkback without self voice? Some of my frends who use Android are asking.
Dr. Engin Yılmaz
[www.drenginyilmaz.net](http://www.drenginyilmaz.net/)
WhatsApp Duyuru Grubu:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69
X Ve Instagram kullanıcı adı: yilmaeng
Youtube Kanalı:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA
From: Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test [<mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com>](mailto:mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:30 PM To: MBraille Test [<mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com>](mailto:mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com) Subject: [MBraille-Test] v0.9.1 fixing and polishing
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster.
* Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver.
* Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now.
* Changed the keyboard click sound
* Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers)
* Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS
* Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
Best regards,
Harri
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Hello, I am using an app called corvus https://corvuskit.com/en . That is blindness specific suite off apps with screen reader included developed here in slovakia. Of course I am biased but I must say this is damn powerfull app with various services integrated. The chinese screen reader you are thinking about is called Jieshuo often translated as commentary screen reader (CSR for short). CSR has a feature called gamer mode. Once the app is enabled for the gamer mode CRS automagically disables touch exploration when that app is in focus. So for self-voicing apps it is no longer needed to disable and enable the screen reader manually. Oh btw and this will most likelly be interesting to Harri as well: Since API level 30 there is a method setTouchExplorationPassthroughRegion <https://developer.android.com/reference/android/accessibilityservice/Accessi...> It can disable touch exploration for selected region. So there is no need to stop the whole accessibility service. It's working even when multiple accessibility services are running. So in theory MBraille should implement a minimal accessibility service with this functionality of disabling explore by touch feature for the region where the keyboard is showing. Other screen readers such as talkback are expected to respect this. Advanced braille keyboard is doing this already. Greetings Peter Dňa 30. 1. 2026 o 15:31 Harri Pasanen napísal(a):
Interesting... Does the keyboard input also work while the screen reader is running? Is it this Chinese screen reader that must be side-loaded, don't remember the name now?
Note that in 0.9.1 there is no longer a choice in settings to speak using TalkBack, VoiceOver, etc. for mobile, but it will default to that if it detects that screen reader is running and locale matches phone locale.
Best regards, Harri
On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 16:01, Peter Vágner via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hello, I am using a different screen reader on android. But when checked in the MBraille settings it can speak through a screen reader. I believe it uses accessibility announcement events under the hood.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 30. 1. 2026 o 10:37 engin_yilmaz--- via MBraille-Test napísal(a):
Harri can New Mbraille be used with talkback without self voice? Some of my frends who use Android are asking.
Dr. Engin Yılmaz
www.drenginyilmaz.net <http://www.drenginyilmaz.net/>
WhatsApp Duyuru Grubu:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69 <https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69>
X Ve Instagram kullanıcı adı: yilmaeng
Youtube Kanalı:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA>
*From:*Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2026 12:30 PM *To:* MBraille Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> *Subject:* [MBraille-Test] v0.9.1 fixing and polishing
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster.
* Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver.
* Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now.
* Changed the keyboard click sound
* Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers)
* Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS
* Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
Best regards,
Harri
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Hi, Thanks for the hint on setTouchExplorationPassthroughRegion, I will check it out. It would indeed be great if that works with MBraille. Best regards, Harri On Friday, January 30th, 2026 at 4:52 PM, Peter Vágner via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hello, I am using an app called corvus https://corvuskit.com/en . That is blindness specific suite off apps with screen reader included developed here in slovakia. Of course I am biased but I must say this is damn powerfull app with various services integrated.
The chinese screen reader you are thinking about is called Jieshuo often translated as commentary screen reader (CSR for short). CSR has a feature called gamer mode. Once the app is enabled for the gamer mode CRS automagically disables touch exploration when that app is in focus. So for self-voicing apps it is no longer needed to disable and enable the screen reader manually.
Oh btw and this will most likelly be interesting to Harri as well: Since API level 30 there is a method [setTouchExplorationPassthroughRegion](https://developer.android.com/reference/android/accessibilityservice/Accessi...)) It can disable touch exploration for selected region. So there is no need to stop the whole accessibility service. It's working even when multiple accessibility services are running. So in theory MBraille should implement a minimal accessibility service with this functionality of disabling explore by touch feature for the region where the keyboard is showing. Other screen readers such as talkback are expected to respect this. Advanced braille keyboard is doing this already.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 30. 1. 2026 o 15:31 Harri Pasanen napísal(a):
Interesting... Does the keyboard input also work while the screen reader is running? Is it this Chinese screen reader that must be side-loaded, don't remember the name now? Note that in 0.9.1 there is no longer a choice in settings to speak using TalkBack, VoiceOver, etc. for mobile, but it will default to that if it detects that screen reader is running and locale matches phone locale.
Best regards, Harri
On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 16:01, Peter Vágner via MBraille-Test [<mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com>](mailto:mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com) wrote:
Hello, I am using a different screen reader on android. But when checked in the MBraille settings it can speak through a screen reader. I believe it uses accessibility announcement events under the hood.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa 30. 1. 2026 o 10:37 engin_yilmaz--- via MBraille-Test napísal(a):
Harri can New Mbraille be used with talkback without self voice? Some of my frends who use Android are asking.
Dr. Engin Yılmaz
[www.drenginyilmaz.net](http://www.drenginyilmaz.net/)
WhatsApp Duyuru Grubu:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/Cf9WAVCr1fG4CFSp9bdp69
X Ve Instagram kullanıcı adı: yilmaeng
Youtube Kanalı:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvV30ECEfj9MgkL04c8kLA
From: Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test [<mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com>](mailto:mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:30 PM To: MBraille Test [<mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com>](mailto:mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com) Subject: [MBraille-Test] v0.9.1 fixing and polishing
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster.
* Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver.
* Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now.
* Changed the keyboard click sound
* Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers)
* Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS
* Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
Best regards,
Harri
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Hi Harri! My only issue right now is the keyboard sounds. Would it be possible to have the option to use Clicks1, as we can in the original mBraille version? The clicks sound just like the little sound iOS makes when we're touch typing using the onscreen keyboard. The clicks it's making now are a bit... intrusive, I guess. I was hoping for something a bit more subtle. Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2026, at 4:30 AM, Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster. * Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver. * Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now. * Changed the keyboard click sound * Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers) * Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS * Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
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Hi Brooke, I suppose you tested with 0.9.1, where I changed the click already to closer to Apple original? I can tweak it further, I'll do some reasearch on the topic. Best regards, Harri On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 13:40, Brooke via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
Hi Harri! My only issue right now is the keyboard sounds. Would it be possible to have the option to use Clicks1, as we can in the original mBraille version? The clicks sound just like the little sound iOS makes when we're touch typing using the onscreen keyboard. The clicks it's making now are a bit... intrusive, I guess. I was hoping for something a bit more subtle.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2026, at 4:30 AM, Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster. * Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver. * Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now. * Changed the keyboard click sound * Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers) * Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS * Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
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Yup, I'm running 0.9.1. I can't remember exactly what the sounds sounded like in 0.9.0, but I feel like they still sound similar now. Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2026, at 7:34 AM, Harri Pasanen <harri@mpaja.com> wrote:
Hi Brooke,
I suppose you tested with 0.9.1, where I changed the click already to closer to Apple original? I can tweak it further, I'll do some reasearch on the topic.
Best regards, Harri
On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 13:40, Brooke via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote: Hi Harri! My only issue right now is the keyboard sounds. Would it be possible to have the option to use Clicks1, as we can in the original mBraille version? The clicks sound just like the little sound iOS makes when we're touch typing using the onscreen keyboard. The clicks it's making now are a bit... intrusive, I guess. I was hoping for something a bit more subtle. Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 30, 2026, at 4:30 AM, Harri Pasanen via MBraille-Test <mbraille-test@lists.mpaja.com> wrote:
# Version 0.9.1
Polishing and fixing only this time.
* Changed the audio library used to a low latency one, so it should feel faster. * Cleaned up VoiceOver use in iOS, it should now use VoiceOver, with the speed you configured for VoiceOver. * Tuned the speed scaling of iOS self voicing, slowest was too slow, fastest too fast. This is platform dependent, so let me know how it feels now. * Changed the keyboard click sound * Announce beginning of text when deleting backwards by word, when nothing left to delete. (swipe left with two fingers) * Adjusted self voicing speed scaling for iOS * Self voicing on iOS can also now be interrupted, like on Android. It can still probably be improved, let me know if needed.
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